1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:02,659 well it's a pleasure to be here I must 2 00:00:07,730 --> 00:00:05,490 confess that after hearing the morning 3 00:00:11,150 --> 00:00:07,740 and afternoon about various 4 00:00:13,430 --> 00:00:11,160 conversations related to UFOs and such 5 00:00:15,470 --> 00:00:13,440 controversial work what I'm about to 6 00:00:22,700 --> 00:00:15,480 share with you may sound mundane in 7 00:00:24,380 --> 00:00:22,710 comparison which is unusual for me the 8 00:00:26,810 --> 00:00:24,390 title of this research is the effects of 9 00:00:31,669 --> 00:00:26,820 distant group intention on the growth of 10 00:00:33,950 --> 00:00:31,679 seedlings and it involves myself and 11 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:33,960 mark Baku's II and limbic Taggart and 12 00:00:41,049 --> 00:00:37,170 Melinda Conner in this particular 13 00:00:43,610 --> 00:00:41,059 research was actually funded by a 14 00:00:47,270 --> 00:00:43,620 foundation associated with Canyon Ranch 15 00:00:51,049 --> 00:00:47,280 and if it wasn't for their openness this 16 00:00:53,979 --> 00:00:51,059 kind of work could never take place the 17 00:00:56,090 --> 00:00:53,989 work is uh there's been many studies of 18 00:00:57,889 --> 00:00:56,100 distant about local and distant 19 00:01:00,979 --> 00:00:57,899 intentionality related to living systems 20 00:01:04,179 --> 00:01:00,989 and they're reviewed in two recent books 21 00:01:06,740 --> 00:01:04,189 as well as books by Dean Radin and 22 00:01:08,230 --> 00:01:06,750 clothes Swanson and so on one is called 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:08,240 the energy healing experiments which I 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:11,010 wrote to summarized our research over 25 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:13,530 the past ten years and the second is the 26 00:01:18,109 --> 00:01:15,090 intention experiment by Lynne McTaggart 27 00:01:19,609 --> 00:01:18,119 which I suspect many of you have heard 28 00:01:20,929 --> 00:01:19,619 of what's interesting by the way is that 29 00:01:25,700 --> 00:01:20,939 neither of these books use the word 30 00:01:28,730 --> 00:01:25,710 parapsychology because we do see this as 31 00:01:32,450 --> 00:01:28,740 as a although some of the phenomena may 32 00:01:34,730 --> 00:01:32,460 seem strange or anomalistic this is 33 00:01:38,899 --> 00:01:34,740 something that apparently applies to all 34 00:01:40,850 --> 00:01:38,909 of us now I will not be talking today 35 00:01:43,420 --> 00:01:40,860 about research that we've done both with 36 00:01:46,730 --> 00:01:43,430 local and distant intentionality on 37 00:01:51,170 --> 00:01:46,740 biophoton emission in plants using a 38 00:01:54,319 --> 00:01:51,180 super cooled ccd camera system the cool 39 00:01:57,380 --> 00:01:54,329 to minus 100 degrees centigrade although 40 00:01:59,510 --> 00:01:57,390 this work is really phenomenal it would 41 00:02:01,280 --> 00:01:59,520 take a whole presentation and what I 42 00:02:04,249 --> 00:02:01,290 instead want to talk to you about is an 43 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:04,259 application of distant intentionality to 44 00:02:08,690 --> 00:02:07,530 the growth of of barley seeds and part 45 00:02:11,059 --> 00:02:08,700 of the reason for selecting this 46 00:02:12,070 --> 00:02:11,069 preparation is because it's research 47 00:02:14,530 --> 00:02:12,080 that 48 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:14,540 can be done by virtually anyone 49 00:02:19,090 --> 00:02:16,970 including high school students and it 50 00:02:21,850 --> 00:02:19,100 has obvious direct potential 51 00:02:23,370 --> 00:02:21,860 applications to the vitality of our 52 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:23,380 planet 53 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:25,970 whereas biophoton omission is a bit of 54 00:02:31,180 --> 00:02:30,050 esoteric for for non-scientists so the 55 00:02:33,250 --> 00:02:31,190 purpose with the German where the 56 00:02:35,530 --> 00:02:33,260 distant group intention could affect the 57 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:35,540 growth of barley seeds under blinded 58 00:02:39,070 --> 00:02:37,010 experimental conditions that was the 59 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:39,080 first purpose second was determining 60 00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:40,730 whether there might be a called spread 61 00:02:44,470 --> 00:02:43,340 of affect within a given experiment on 62 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:44,480 the growth of barley seeds and the 63 00:02:49,210 --> 00:02:46,910 reason is because the seeds were closed 64 00:02:51,340 --> 00:02:49,220 fairly placed fairly close together as 65 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:51,350 you will see and the question is how 66 00:02:55,870 --> 00:02:53,690 specific with the intention bead to the 67 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:55,880 seeds that were targeted and the third 68 00:02:59,620 --> 00:02:57,530 is to explore where the groups trained 69 00:03:01,330 --> 00:02:59,630 in focused attention and healing would 70 00:03:06,700 --> 00:03:01,340 have a greater and/or more selective 71 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:06,710 effect on the growth of barley seeds now 72 00:03:13,630 --> 00:03:11,210 each experiment had 120 seeds in a 73 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:13,640 blinded distant group intention session 74 00:03:17,770 --> 00:03:15,290 by the way that was also something that 75 00:03:20,260 --> 00:03:17,780 was you could get many more subjects for 76 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:20,270 experiment if you worked with seeds than 77 00:03:23,949 --> 00:03:22,130 where he worked for example leaves or or 78 00:03:26,620 --> 00:03:23,959 vegetables that took up a large space in 79 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:26,630 the camera and then we had 120 seeds in 80 00:03:31,900 --> 00:03:28,250 a matched control which was a non 81 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:31,910 intention session for each session the 82 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:34,730 distant group intention and control the 83 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:37,610 seeds were divided into a four sets and 84 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:40,310 of 30 seeds per group which was simply 85 00:03:45,190 --> 00:03:43,250 labeled a B C and D and then one of the 86 00:03:48,460 --> 00:03:45,200 four sets was randomly selected as the 87 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:48,470 intention targeted seed and of 30 seeds 88 00:03:52,540 --> 00:03:50,090 the other three sets became the non 89 00:03:54,699 --> 00:03:52,550 targeted controls for an end of 90 seeds 90 00:03:57,790 --> 00:03:54,709 and the match control session used the 91 00:04:02,380 --> 00:03:57,800 same targeted and non targeted control 92 00:04:04,330 --> 00:04:02,390 sets now the the experimental part is as 93 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:04,340 follows this is basically a picture of 94 00:04:07,449 --> 00:04:06,050 the laboratory where the room where the 95 00:04:10,060 --> 00:04:07,459 research was run and you could see the 96 00:04:11,850 --> 00:04:10,070 pots and the computer and so on what 97 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:11,860 would happen is that we would select 98 00:04:17,110 --> 00:04:14,690 research assistant would select 120 99 00:04:20,020 --> 00:04:17,120 seats place them in four trays a b c and 100 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:20,030 d and he would gently move them so they 101 00:04:24,159 --> 00:04:21,250 were more or less in alignment 102 00:04:25,270 --> 00:04:24,169 photographs would then be taken of a b c 103 00:04:28,510 --> 00:04:25,280 and d 104 00:04:31,450 --> 00:04:28,520 and then those four photographs would be 105 00:04:33,129 --> 00:04:31,460 emailed to Lynne McTaggart who happened 106 00:04:36,159 --> 00:04:33,139 to be at a meeting somewhere in the 107 00:04:39,070 --> 00:04:36,169 world where they would the audience 108 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:39,080 member would select randomly a B C or D 109 00:04:43,870 --> 00:04:41,810 and then one of these sets of images 110 00:04:46,180 --> 00:04:43,880 would therefore go up on the screen and 111 00:04:48,730 --> 00:04:46,190 that would be the seeds for which the 112 00:04:51,790 --> 00:04:48,740 intention to grow would be sent for 10 113 00:04:54,310 --> 00:04:51,800 to 15 minutes after after that intention 114 00:04:56,530 --> 00:04:54,320 was completed the the research assistant 115 00:04:58,900 --> 00:04:56,540 was blind to which of the four sets had 116 00:05:00,670 --> 00:04:58,910 been selected he would then put a fixed 117 00:05:03,310 --> 00:05:00,680 amount of water in each of the seeds and 118 00:05:05,050 --> 00:05:03,320 then the the they would sit for 24 hours 119 00:05:07,990 --> 00:05:05,060 and soak the seeds would then be washed 120 00:05:10,930 --> 00:05:08,000 then they would be planted at a fixed 121 00:05:12,550 --> 00:05:10,940 amount of soil with nutrients and then a 122 00:05:14,830 --> 00:05:12,560 fixed amount of water would be placed on 123 00:05:16,990 --> 00:05:14,840 top all of that would then be encased in 124 00:05:19,090 --> 00:05:17,000 a in a plastic bags that the seeds grew 125 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:19,100 in the dark for five days with no 126 00:05:24,610 --> 00:05:22,130 additional water administered and so 127 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:24,620 there the four pops are and then at the 128 00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:27,770 end of the four days the seeds would be 129 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:29,600 open five days you could see now that 130 00:05:33,130 --> 00:05:31,250 they're growing that they have grown and 131 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:33,140 then each of them would be pulled out 132 00:05:37,900 --> 00:05:35,570 and and measured in terms of millimeters 133 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:37,910 and that would be recorded and then it 134 00:05:42,190 --> 00:05:39,770 would be put into a spreadsheets and an 135 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:42,200 ultimately statistical analysis analyzed 136 00:05:45,670 --> 00:05:43,850 of course it was after this whole 137 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:45,680 process was done that the code would 138 00:05:50,350 --> 00:05:47,690 then be broken we would then be informed 139 00:05:52,990 --> 00:05:50,360 which a B of C D was the targeted versus 140 00:05:54,340 --> 00:05:53,000 non targeted conditions through a total 141 00:05:56,770 --> 00:05:54,350 of six experiments these were 142 00:05:58,930 --> 00:05:56,780 opportunistic meaning we didn't have 143 00:06:00,520 --> 00:05:58,940 control we didn't we didn't select the 144 00:06:03,250 --> 00:06:00,530 subjects we didn't select the timing 145 00:06:05,500 --> 00:06:03,260 they just took advantage of when Lin was 146 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:05,510 doing one of these workshops and there 147 00:06:10,390 --> 00:06:07,370 was one in Sydney Australia with a group 148 00:06:12,820 --> 00:06:10,400 size of about six hundred and you could 149 00:06:14,830 --> 00:06:12,830 see that that audience picked target a 150 00:06:16,570 --> 00:06:14,840 there was an online study that was 151 00:06:18,070 --> 00:06:16,580 conducted by a London then there was one 152 00:06:20,980 --> 00:06:18,080 in Rhinebeck New York one in Palm 153 00:06:22,870 --> 00:06:20,990 Springs actually the Austin Texas one 154 00:06:24,700 --> 00:06:22,880 was actually the sixth experiment but I 155 00:06:26,710 --> 00:06:24,710 listed it in order here as the fifth 156 00:06:29,260 --> 00:06:26,720 only because I wanted that especially 157 00:06:31,029 --> 00:06:29,270 especially note that the Hilton Head 158 00:06:34,029 --> 00:06:31,039 experiment of which there were five 159 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:34,039 hundred subjects was actually a group of 160 00:06:37,410 --> 00:06:35,210 which was convenient 161 00:06:39,450 --> 00:06:37,420 it was a Healing Touch international 162 00:06:41,130 --> 00:06:39,460 meeting of Healing Touch practitioners 163 00:06:44,310 --> 00:06:41,140 so this was a group that we happen to 164 00:06:47,460 --> 00:06:44,320 have who were practiced in the art of 165 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:47,470 focusing intention and and healing and 166 00:06:51,810 --> 00:06:49,930 for the six experiments the total number 167 00:06:53,970 --> 00:06:51,820 of scenes or subjects was fourteen 168 00:06:55,830 --> 00:06:53,980 hundred and forty subjects which is very 169 00:06:59,490 --> 00:06:55,840 large for the kind of research that we 170 00:07:02,520 --> 00:06:59,500 typically do this is a summary of the 171 00:07:05,130 --> 00:07:02,530 data and what this curve shows is on the 172 00:07:08,370 --> 00:07:05,140 Left where it says intention days those 173 00:07:11,820 --> 00:07:08,380 contain the the targeted seeds which is 174 00:07:14,460 --> 00:07:11,830 which is the blue square and the non 175 00:07:17,010 --> 00:07:14,470 targeted control seeds which was the 176 00:07:20,670 --> 00:07:17,020 guess you'd say that's red and you can 177 00:07:23,610 --> 00:07:20,680 see that there is a it's much higher in 178 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:23,620 the for the intended seed than the 179 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:26,650 controls then for the non intention day 180 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:29,530 which was a day which was not blinded 181 00:07:33,780 --> 00:07:32,050 but was also five days of growing of the 182 00:07:36,420 --> 00:07:33,790 seeds but where there was no intention 183 00:07:40,310 --> 00:07:36,430 going into the lab you could see that in 184 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:40,320 both in both cases it was lower and 185 00:07:45,990 --> 00:07:43,650 significantly so in terms of analyses 186 00:07:47,340 --> 00:07:46,000 several dopers were conducted on the 187 00:07:49,020 --> 00:07:47,350 group intention and non intention 188 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:49,030 controlled days for the intention day 189 00:07:53,430 --> 00:07:51,130 only which was the blinded condition the 190 00:07:56,700 --> 00:07:53,440 main effect for target was significantly 191 00:07:59,040 --> 00:07:56,710 less 0.07 for the non intention day only 192 00:08:00,960 --> 00:07:59,050 the main effects for target was non 193 00:08:03,180 --> 00:08:00,970 significant in other words there was no 194 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:03,190 difference in the in the in the 195 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:05,170 attention versus target versus non 196 00:08:10,380 --> 00:08:07,030 targeted when there was no intention 197 00:08:12,660 --> 00:08:10,390 given at all now the main effect for 198 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:12,670 intention day attention day versus the 199 00:08:18,420 --> 00:08:15,130 non attention day was highly significant 200 00:08:20,820 --> 00:08:18,430 that's the two points on the on the Left 201 00:08:22,710 --> 00:08:20,830 versus the two points on the right and 202 00:08:24,210 --> 00:08:22,720 separate numbers were conducted 203 00:08:26,610 --> 00:08:24,220 separately for the target seed and the 204 00:08:28,770 --> 00:08:26,620 non targeted seeds and you can see that 205 00:08:31,860 --> 00:08:28,780 both of those effects were highly 206 00:08:33,990 --> 00:08:31,870 statistically significant so it looked 207 00:08:36,330 --> 00:08:34,000 like the possibility that there might be 208 00:08:38,250 --> 00:08:36,340 a spread of effect that was occurring 209 00:08:40,380 --> 00:08:38,260 with a targeted even the non targeted 210 00:08:41,730 --> 00:08:40,390 seeds were being accentuated but of 211 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:41,740 course you have to remember that part of 212 00:08:46,140 --> 00:08:44,050 the study was not blind so there are 213 00:08:47,780 --> 00:08:46,150 alternative interpretations that that 214 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:47,790 are open to the data 215 00:08:52,370 --> 00:08:49,290 now I said that there were one 216 00:08:54,950 --> 00:08:52,380 particular group which was the Healing 217 00:08:57,410 --> 00:08:54,960 Touch international group and I looked 218 00:09:00,230 --> 00:08:57,420 at them separately what's interesting 219 00:09:03,020 --> 00:09:00,240 about this group by itself is that first 220 00:09:05,330 --> 00:09:03,030 of all it showed the largest specificity 221 00:09:06,890 --> 00:09:05,340 effect that is the target seeds compared 222 00:09:09,260 --> 00:09:06,900 to the non targeted seeds in the 223 00:09:12,050 --> 00:09:09,270 intention date and interestingly they 224 00:09:14,450 --> 00:09:12,060 showed no essentially non intention day 225 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:14,460 effect comparison to the non intention 226 00:09:19,550 --> 00:09:16,890 day suggesting that they were showing 227 00:09:21,620 --> 00:09:19,560 greater specificity and therefore less 228 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:21,630 spread of effect which would be 229 00:09:29,180 --> 00:09:25,970 consistent with the intention hypothesis 230 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:29,190 now to examine whether the a versus IDI 231 00:09:32,090 --> 00:09:30,930 targets were possibly different because 232 00:09:34,700 --> 00:09:32,100 obviously it was not a completely 233 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:34,710 randomized order with an end of six and 234 00:09:37,940 --> 00:09:36,210 other was performed on just the 235 00:09:40,070 --> 00:09:37,950 intention sessions which were blinded 236 00:09:42,110 --> 00:09:40,080 comparing the four experiments with the 237 00:09:44,930 --> 00:09:42,120 eight targets versus the two experiments 238 00:09:46,460 --> 00:09:44,940 with the CD targets the main effect 239 00:09:48,050 --> 00:09:46,470 photographers hasn't on the target again 240 00:09:50,150 --> 00:09:48,060 was significant which was not surprising 241 00:09:52,300 --> 00:09:50,160 however there was no interaction with 242 00:09:54,980 --> 00:09:52,310 the target placement a versus CD 243 00:10:00,290 --> 00:09:54,990 indicating that position did not seem to 244 00:10:02,870 --> 00:10:00,300 be a factor in explaining the results so 245 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:02,880 conclusions over the six experiments 246 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:05,370 distant group intention in a blinded 247 00:10:09,230 --> 00:10:07,530 experimental design was associated with 248 00:10:12,010 --> 00:10:09,240 increased growth but barley seeds in 249 00:10:14,150 --> 00:10:12,020 targeted return on targeted seeds 250 00:10:15,650 --> 00:10:14,160 secondly this effect could not be 251 00:10:17,620 --> 00:10:15,660 explained in terms of random selection 252 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:17,630 of the targeted seeds over the 253 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:22,170 experiments third over the six 254 00:10:25,910 --> 00:10:24,210 experiments distant group intention was 255 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:25,920 associated with overall increase poly 256 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:27,690 growth in targeted non targeted scenes 257 00:10:32,690 --> 00:10:30,510 compared with matched non intention 258 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:32,700 control sessions just in general those 259 00:10:37,670 --> 00:10:35,130 seats grew more now because this 260 00:10:39,460 --> 00:10:37,680 comparison was not blinded a possible 261 00:10:42,620 --> 00:10:39,470 experiment effect cannot be ruled out 262 00:10:46,130 --> 00:10:42,630 however a quote anomaly or unexpected 263 00:10:47,870 --> 00:10:46,140 effect in the data emerged which had to 264 00:10:49,910 --> 00:10:47,880 do with a last experiment which was the 265 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:49,920 Austin experiment it turned out and that 266 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:51,890 was the only experiment with a non 267 00:11:00,140 --> 00:10:56,010 intended day seeds overall were higher 268 00:11:01,129 --> 00:11:00,150 than the targeted seeds and non targeted 269 00:11:03,619 --> 00:11:01,139 seeds 270 00:11:05,269 --> 00:11:03,629 the intention day and it turned out that 271 00:11:07,460 --> 00:11:05,279 it was during that period of time that 272 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:07,470 we were breaking the laboratory down in 273 00:11:12,169 --> 00:11:10,410 the last couple of days for construction 274 00:11:14,239 --> 00:11:12,179 to take place which meant there was 275 00:11:18,919 --> 00:11:14,249 other energy in the room 276 00:11:20,809 --> 00:11:18,929 sound and and so on and and that's the 277 00:11:23,470 --> 00:11:20,819 one case where there was a reversal to 278 00:11:25,340 --> 00:11:23,480 what the with the other groups showed 279 00:11:27,079 --> 00:11:25,350 suggesting that even if there was an 280 00:11:29,539 --> 00:11:27,089 experiment effect it could be also be 281 00:11:32,150 --> 00:11:29,549 affected by other environmental factors 282 00:11:34,549 --> 00:11:32,160 and we'll see by the way in coming in 283 00:11:37,179 --> 00:11:34,559 tomorrow when Joey Jones presents the 284 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:37,189 the environment of the laboratory 285 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:39,689 energetically can have effect on living 286 00:11:45,049 --> 00:11:43,410 systems now the large magnitude targeted 287 00:11:46,849 --> 00:11:45,059 effect in The Healing Touch practitioner 288 00:11:48,379 --> 00:11:46,859 experiment couples of the absence of a 289 00:11:50,449 --> 00:11:48,389 spread of affect and tension effect 290 00:11:54,499 --> 00:11:50,459 further suggests the importance of 291 00:11:56,179 --> 00:11:54,509 distant group intention one of the 292 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:56,189 things that's that's very interesting 293 00:11:59,989 --> 00:11:57,569 about distant group intention is 294 00:12:01,849 --> 00:11:59,999 implicitly it's it's talking about some 295 00:12:02,979 --> 00:12:01,859 of the implications that Claud Swanson 296 00:12:05,509 --> 00:12:02,989 talked about with regard to 297 00:12:07,970 --> 00:12:05,519 synchronization and because when you 298 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:07,980 have multiple individuals simultaneously 299 00:12:12,439 --> 00:12:09,809 putting their intention on a given 300 00:12:14,479 --> 00:12:12,449 object one could speculate that the 301 00:12:16,189 --> 00:12:14,489 group would have greater effects through 302 00:12:20,539 --> 00:12:16,199 some sort of a coherence or synchronized 303 00:12:22,699 --> 00:12:20,549 action conclusions obviously the quote 304 00:12:26,059 --> 00:12:22,709 opportunistic aspect of these six 305 00:12:29,509 --> 00:12:26,069 experiments is not ideal on the other 306 00:12:31,850 --> 00:12:29,519 hand they point out that these effects 307 00:12:35,900 --> 00:12:31,860 may apply in the real world at least the 308 00:12:38,299 --> 00:12:35,910 real world of conferences secondly 309 00:12:40,789 --> 00:12:38,309 adding a second blinded experimenter 310 00:12:43,189 --> 00:12:40,799 would make it possible to run blinded 311 00:12:45,019 --> 00:12:43,199 control sessions as well in other words 312 00:12:48,049 --> 00:12:45,029 if we if we do this kind of work in the 313 00:12:50,059 --> 00:12:48,059 future we and we have two experimenters 314 00:12:52,069 --> 00:12:50,069 and they don't know on a given weekend 315 00:12:53,929 --> 00:12:52,079 what whether it's a it's going to be an 316 00:12:56,119 --> 00:12:53,939 attention experiment or not then we can 317 00:12:58,039 --> 00:12:56,129 address the the spread of effect effect 318 00:13:00,229 --> 00:12:58,049 now a lot of questions to address 319 00:13:02,090 --> 00:13:00,239 including distance number of intenders 320 00:13:05,090 --> 00:13:02,100 in a group the type of groups such as 321 00:13:06,769 --> 00:13:05,100 healers and so on running skeptic groups 322 00:13:10,069 --> 00:13:06,779 which I really want to try someday and 323 00:13:11,539 --> 00:13:10,079 controls and finally I just like to 324 00:13:13,479 --> 00:13:11,549 share that we we've become very 325 00:13:14,670 --> 00:13:13,489 interested in the nature of water itself 326 00:13:16,079 --> 00:13:14,680 and 327 00:13:17,850 --> 00:13:16,089 you know there are theremin studies in 328 00:13:20,460 --> 00:13:17,860 fact Glenn's gonna be talking shortly 329 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:20,470 about about intentionality in water and 330 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:22,810 the question arises what happens if 331 00:13:26,730 --> 00:13:24,850 intention instead of being sent to the 332 00:13:28,460 --> 00:13:26,740 seeds is going to be sent to water 333 00:13:31,290 --> 00:13:28,470 that's going to nourish the seeds and 334 00:13:33,900 --> 00:13:31,300 then that water is then given to the 335 00:13:35,460 --> 00:13:33,910 seeds and of course the seeds have not 336 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:35,470 been selected until after the water has 337 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:37,810 been energized so there isn't a compound 338 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:39,970 there can we find that at least some of 339 00:13:45,449 --> 00:13:42,250 this effect is actually affecting the 340 00:13:47,550 --> 00:13:45,459 structure or the energy of that which 341 00:13:50,820 --> 00:13:47,560 makes up all living systems which is a 342 00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:50,830 which is water itself I must confess by 343 00:13:54,290 --> 00:13:52,000 the way that when I started these 344 00:13:56,579 --> 00:13:54,300 experiments well despite having 345 00:13:58,740 --> 00:13:56,589 published a book summarizing a lot of 346 00:14:00,600 --> 00:13:58,750 research with local or you know fairly 347 00:14:05,730 --> 00:14:00,610 local you know within feet in 348 00:14:10,050 --> 00:14:05,740 intentionality I was very surprised by 349 00:14:13,079 --> 00:14:10,060 the potential robustness of a potential 350 00:14:14,190 --> 00:14:13,089 distance and tension effects on on 351 00:14:24,390 --> 00:14:14,200 living systems 352 00:14:38,950 --> 00:14:24,400 thank you we have questions you're the 353 00:14:43,220 --> 00:14:41,690 the effect would be between the local 354 00:14:47,510 --> 00:14:43,230 and a non-local as mayor is it really 355 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:47,520 better when you're closed well looking 356 00:14:51,590 --> 00:14:49,110 at these data remember there was only 357 00:14:53,420 --> 00:14:51,600 six experiments and we looked at the 358 00:14:55,220 --> 00:14:53,430 distance effect and we also potential 359 00:14:58,130 --> 00:14:55,230 distance effect we also looked at the 360 00:15:02,030 --> 00:14:58,140 potential you know end of the group 100 361 00:15:03,890 --> 00:15:02,040 versus 500 of 617 tenders and there were 362 00:15:05,780 --> 00:15:03,900 certainly no statistical differences and 363 00:15:06,950 --> 00:15:05,790 no significant correlations but again 364 00:15:10,430 --> 00:15:06,960 you're only dealing with an end of six 365 00:15:15,310 --> 00:15:10,440 so I really can't speak to that as far 366 00:15:22,610 --> 00:15:19,430 are we measuring growth or how fast 367 00:15:25,850 --> 00:15:22,620 they're growing the this engineers thing 368 00:15:27,410 --> 00:15:25,860 comes to mind is you know there's lots 369 00:15:31,250 --> 00:15:27,420 of people in this world who need more 370 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:31,260 food and is this an is is this a way to 371 00:15:37,700 --> 00:15:34,110 get a higher yield of barley I think 372 00:15:41,060 --> 00:15:37,710 that would be the pragmatic future work 373 00:15:45,340 --> 00:15:41,070 but it either address whether it's just 374 00:15:49,940 --> 00:15:48,260 something else well the way that we've 375 00:15:51,590 --> 00:15:49,950 measured measured it is a one time 376 00:15:54,530 --> 00:15:51,600 measurement after it's grown for five 377 00:15:56,420 --> 00:15:54,540 days so from in that way you would say 378 00:15:58,370 --> 00:15:56,430 you could call it a speed of growth 379 00:16:00,800 --> 00:15:58,380 effect because they're growing more 380 00:16:03,230 --> 00:16:00,810 robustly but whether its speed or just 381 00:16:05,660 --> 00:16:03,240 greater vitality you know that becomes a 382 00:16:07,730 --> 00:16:05,670 that becomes a theoretical question but 383 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:07,740 if the practical question is if you can 384 00:16:12,140 --> 00:16:09,930 get more Bali to grow in a quicker 385 00:16:14,270 --> 00:16:12,150 period of time for the same amount of 386 00:16:16,450 --> 00:16:14,280 resources that's a valuable thing for 387 00:16:18,290 --> 00:16:16,460 our society and for the world 388 00:16:21,470 --> 00:16:18,300 Gary I I don't know if you're familiar 389 00:16:23,630 --> 00:16:21,480 with the name Bill sweet Bill sweet 390 00:16:26,420 --> 00:16:23,640 wrote a book called a journey into 391 00:16:28,370 --> 00:16:26,430 prayer about two Christian Scientists 392 00:16:31,970 --> 00:16:28,380 that wanted to prove that prayer worked 393 00:16:34,550 --> 00:16:31,980 this is in the 60s and they started 394 00:16:36,170 --> 00:16:34,560 doing research exactly or similar to 395 00:16:38,510 --> 00:16:36,180 what you're talking about they knew 396 00:16:40,490 --> 00:16:38,520 there was a placebo effect they knew 397 00:16:42,380 --> 00:16:40,500 that was with humans and so they wanted 398 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:42,390 to use something that would not you know 399 00:16:47,930 --> 00:16:45,410 the SIBO effect would not interfere with 400 00:16:48,610 --> 00:16:47,940 they got the same kind of results your 401 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:48,620 reporting 402 00:16:53,110 --> 00:16:50,090 year over and over again but they were 403 00:16:55,660 --> 00:16:53,120 rejected both by their religious 404 00:16:58,480 --> 00:16:55,670 community and by academia and their 405 00:16:59,980 --> 00:16:58,490 scientific community I imagine Larry 406 00:17:02,980 --> 00:16:59,990 Dossey knows more about this and I hope 407 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:02,990 he will speak about it but they ended up 408 00:17:08,260 --> 00:17:05,570 after years finally starting to be 409 00:17:10,390 --> 00:17:08,270 accepted ended up committing suicide the 410 00:17:13,150 --> 00:17:10,400 two of them together really yes sir 411 00:17:14,590 --> 00:17:13,160 I suggest you check that book out there 412 00:17:16,360 --> 00:17:14,600 I'm probably glad that I didn't know 413 00:17:18,850 --> 00:17:16,370 about this before I started the research 414 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:18,860 because I have no interest in following 415 00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:22,250 in their footsteps you know it's a 416 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:25,280 challenge if you do any of this with any 417 00:17:30,610 --> 00:17:28,730 particular religious persuasion if I did 418 00:17:33,130 --> 00:17:30,620 this as a fundamentalist Christian or a 419 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:33,140 Christian Scientist or a Muslim or a 420 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:35,810 Jewish person or whatever I went 421 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:37,610 immediately beginning in I think even 422 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:40,130 more trouble than just doing this in a 423 00:17:47,590 --> 00:17:45,290 quote secular fashion we have a C 424 00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:47,600 testing laboratory and we've done some 425 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:50,240 of this kind of work here in the Denver 426 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:51,410 area hmm 427 00:17:55,060 --> 00:17:53,690 and one and I we can talk about but one 428 00:17:58,720 --> 00:17:55,070 of the questions I want to ask you is 429 00:18:00,760 --> 00:17:58,730 did you notice any increased actual 430 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:00,770 germination percentage did more seeds 431 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:04,130 actually germinate in the in the trials 432 00:18:10,210 --> 00:18:07,250 where there was intention the answer is 433 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:10,220 it looked that way but since most of our 434 00:18:15,700 --> 00:18:12,650 seeds germinated with this procedure 435 00:18:20,350 --> 00:18:15,710 there isn't much room for variability in 436 00:18:22,270 --> 00:18:20,360 that sense okay so if this is not the 437 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:22,280 preparation in which you'd want to look 438 00:18:27,070 --> 00:18:24,770 at rate of germination because almost 439 00:18:29,950 --> 00:18:27,080 all the seeds Germany you know good 85